Comments on: Can Java Be Saved? Part Four http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/ A graybeard talks about teaching and developing. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:17:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Kevin http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-1067 Kevin Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:34:57 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-1067 I'd be willing to lend you my 10 fingers and brain to the job. I may even be persuaded to learn Ruby (might take me all of 10 minutes considering how abstract I think when programming) and Linux (It's not that I like Windows as an OS, it's that the machine that was actually worth using met an early demise (the Amiga) and PCs were what I had to fall back on so that's what I got used to. Don't hate the usah, hate the frame!). I guess the question remaining is... is there work that an Eric-dubbed "library-writer" could contribute? And one more thing... BLOG (insert expletive here) it! Kevin *wanders off muttering something about a lack of blog entries setting a poor example* I’d be willing to lend you my 10 fingers and brain to the job. I may even be persuaded to learn Ruby (might take me all of 10 minutes considering how abstract I think when programming) and Linux (It’s not that I like Windows as an OS, it’s that the machine that was actually worth using met an early demise (the Amiga) and PCs were what I had to fall back on so that’s what I got used to. Don’t hate the usah, hate the frame!). I guess the question remaining is… is there work that an Eric-dubbed “library-writer” could contribute?

And one more thing…

BLOG (insert expletive here) it!

Kevin

wanders off muttering something about a lack of blog entries setting a poor example

]]> By: brett http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-1046 brett Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:53:34 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-1046 Any chance we will get a follow up to this post? Any chance we will get a follow up to this post?

]]> By: nate http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-719 nate Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:07:25 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-719 Oh yeah, and if you need some ruby slave-work, I know a bit of ruby and would love to build my resume and contribute to the removal of grief from web programming in java. Simple - the whiz-bang way to remove grief from teaching Java web programming. Oh yeah, and if you need some ruby slave-work, I know a bit of ruby and would love to build my resume and contribute to the removal of grief from web programming in java. Simple – the whiz-bang way to remove grief from teaching Java web programming.

]]> By: nate http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-718 nate Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:02:36 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-718 I think rails-like generators would be nice to see in Java, particularly on the model side, but also for servlets. I'm not that experienced in Java web programming, so we'll see what I think by the end of the semester. I think rails-like generators would be nice to see in Java, particularly on the model side, but also for servlets. I’m not that experienced in Java web programming, so we’ll see what I think by the end of the semester.

]]> By: M Isaacson http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-531 M Isaacson Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:28:08 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-531 Would it be possible to have this be a wrapper on top of another framework? You wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, again, but just provide a better, easier to teach interface. Would it be possible to have this be a wrapper on top of another framework? You wouldn’t have to reinvent the wheel, again, but just provide a better, easier to teach interface.

]]> By: colin http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-82 colin Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:40:18 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-82 i have to admire your willpower in even working with java. i cut my teeth programming in your java class, but i never really felt that "light on my feet". trying to slog through a learning curve is never fun, so i just want to say thank you for lowering my angle of approach for everything you have taught me, and for continuing to spearhead this community of... lets say 'enlightened' programmers. i have to admire your willpower in even working with java. i cut my teeth programming in your java class, but i never really felt that “light on my feet”. trying to slog through a learning curve is never fun, so i just want to say thank you for lowering my angle of approach for everything you have taught me, and for continuing to spearhead this community of… lets say ‘enlightened’ programmers.

]]> By: Brett http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-69 Brett Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:04:20 +0000 http://dovetailcomputing.com/blog/2006/11/24/can-java-be-saved-part-four/#comment-69 Eric, I think you're really on the right path here. I can only speak for myself, but just getting a new web application working, using java, is a big hurdle. However, the reward is a huge sense of accomplishment and the ability (confidence) to tackle harder concepts. Eric, I think you’re really on the right path here. I can only speak for myself, but just getting a new web application working, using java, is a big hurdle. However, the reward is a huge sense of accomplishment and the ability (confidence) to tackle harder concepts.

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